Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. the send signal will cancel out there and the reverb remains. I wish it was separate and honestly even though I'm against using it on a final mix I think I might on a current one I'm doing. Does anybody else get bad white noise from using too many of these all in one plugs? Hey there! It's my favorite of the dig vox plugins. Play a sine sweep through a speaker record it back with a mic and that's your 100% wet signal. Top Sellers. If u use multiple cla vocal plugins its even worse. Because you cant turn the noise off within the plugin. Already have an account? Too many of those plugs can make a session completely unusable. I will post results if I get it right. Anyone knows? any mix of source and reflections cannot be 100% wet (or dry) for that matter. People have been using the "wrong" processors on their Hip Hop mixes for years. The reverbs you are talking about are algorithm based and let you decide what you want and it what amounts. maybe thats the one in the CLA stuff? Unless you automate the plugin to turn off when the vocals are not playing its not worth using imo. Still if I throw this on and then throw on a UAD LA-2A and one of the UAD reverbs it sounds smoother and better to me. Even 1 instance of it is noticeable, as when you master your song as it makes everything louder, it will b heard. 3758b9b5-045c-4b7d-b020-80f9b068d990. 27. So I use it for quick roughs, but it always gets taken off for finals. one the second split flip the phase and bring those two together into another buss. Try the JJP one for some more saturation. Done. It compresses the hell out of you vocals but luckily you have control over that, and it does add noise as some other Waves plugins do but it does sound great if you tame everything. This can be used to take a "wet only" impulse as well as working in a normal mix situation. You need an account to post a reply. If anyone else wants to chime in please do. 7. So I threw CLA Vocals up just for a rough mix, and now I have fallen in love with the tight reverb setting on this damn thing. Specifically, i show how the Wii remote controller is positioned using the wrj4P5 drivers. Otherwise you couldn't use an IR reverb in an aux. I just need to figure out those early reflections. However I am not sure if by now those procedures are forbidden in the license agreements. Created in collaboration with Grammy award-winning mixer Chris Lord-Alge, the CLA Vocals plugin delivers the radio-ready rock vocal sound of Green Day, James Blunt, and Stone Temple Pilots. I am interested in the large reverb (middle) setting... Haven't heard the CLA processors yet, but I did get the new One Knob series, and the Wetter plug in is a very nice reverb. Cla vocals does sound dope. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. i would love to know what the first widener was based on as it seems really pleasant to me and doesn't introduce nasty artifacts like many other stereo width processors. Excellent suggestion, though unfortunately this plugin has no wet/dry mix control. By using this IR what you get out is only the rooms response, the reflection pattern. Especially fx wise.one problem: it makes some hiss like if you used a waves analog emulation and dont turn off the analog button. Hey there! If you love it's sound why don't you just use it as a send like you said? Even 1 instance of it is noticeable, as when you master your song as it makes everything louder, it will b heard. Cla vocals gearslutz Very general 3d visualization of accelerometer objects. Available now for OSX/Windows. You could set it to maximum wet and send a sine sweep through it, record it and use a deconvolver (voxengo has one) to create an impulse of it. I haven't tried using any Waves verbs yet, you may be onto something! Of all the waves vocal plugs I like this one the best. 12. 11. No need to get a 100% wet signal for the deconvolver - that´s part of the deconvolver´s job, it is made for this. :(. I'd just leave it in there but I need to split it out for normal compression and FX. "wet" are the reflections. Recommended For You. It seems to change in the CLA plug based on the frequencies of transients... hmnnn. Oh man I know! not really imho. Cla, maserati, etc.. No need to get a 100% wet signal for the deconvolver - that´s part of the deconvolver´s job, it is made for this. set up a routing where you split the send into two, send one into CLA and bypass everything except the reverb set to max. then use your IR software of choice to use it without the Waves plugin. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. Now that's thinking outside the box, inside the box. Not the original dry signal mixed with the room reflections. This information is then "deconvolver" into an ImpulseResponse. More info on the verb would be great! The closet I got to getting something similar in a mix was the sonnox oxford verb. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Because of this i never use the cla effects plugins. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. You feed the source sweep and the recorded response to the deconvolver and tell the software it is not getting a 100% wet recording. When recording the response of a room (for example by recording what happens after one plays a short burst of noise into the room) ALL you are recording is the reflections of the room. However I am not sure if by now those procedures are forbidden in the license agreements. of course your DAW need full delay compensation for it to work. $50. ... Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610 (England & Wales). Log in to see your personal recommendations. Anyone knows? and btw it should be no problem to get a 100% wet signal out of such plugins. Especially fx wise.one problem: it makes some hiss like if you used a waves analog emulation and dont turn off the analog button. Of course you can. Chris Lord-Alge | Producer | VintageKing.com. I use the cla plugs on acoustic g and vox during tracking and premix. When you "sample" a real room with a sinesweep you can´t get a 100% wet signal either. So I threw CLA Vocals up just for a rough mix, and now I have fallen in love with the tight reverb setting on this damn thing. A convolution reverb on 100% wet will give you 100% convolution of the IR loaded and the incoming signal, which is like taking a picture of how the room sounds in a particular spot, there's no way of getting just the reflections, no company will give you an impulse with just the reflections of a real room. Yes it is a gem! I can recreate everything else in that plug pretty close but that verb is money! I know CLA is a big rock engineer, but I've been using this CLA-Vocals plugin on a lot of hip hop vocals recently and it sounds freakin big and clean!!! 2020. You feed the source sweep and the recorded response to the deconvolver and tell the software it is not getting a 100% wet recording. Done. Everything is "to taste" so as long as it sounds good on your material, it is good. no, the sine wave from the speaker is also being recorded. Cla vocals does sound dope. When you "sample" a real room with a sinesweep you can´t get a 100% wet signal either. Any results?? Ciozzi, I am pretty sure you are wrong with your assumptions. The waves scratch sheets I saw just reveal the ssl e channel eq and 1176 compression. 07:10 AM EST. that´s the dry signal part. Makes sense that a previous Waves algorithm might be in there right? I'm getting pretty close with the Waves Ren Verb! "dry" is the source. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. ValhallaVintageVerb. +1 on the CPU hog. eventually you will have to level align the splits if the CLA plugin changes the level of the dry level. Starting with a basic room setting.